live food

"dinkmeister" wrote in message

> reality too hard for ya?
> dont think your for real
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:19:34 GMT, Jean H wrote:
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> :who said I thought you were 'people?
> :"dinkmeister" wrote in message
> :
> :> turtles don't eat people, they eat fish (and other small animals/bugs)
> :>
> :> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:05:37 GMT, Jean H wrote:
> :>
> :> :maybe one day we'll get lucky and the turtle will leave your head
> :floating
> :> :on the water
> :> :"dinkmeister" wrote in message
> :> :
> :> :> on the other hand, my turtle is even more interesting when it comes
to
> :> :> eating live goldfish, it bites into the fishes tail and uses its
front
> :> :claws
> :> :> to life up under the fishes gills and rip its head clean off, then
eats
> :> :> the body/tail part. the head usually sits there bobbing on the top
of
> :the
> :> :> water still breathing for 20 minutes up to an hour.
> :> :>
> :> :> nature rules!
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> :> :> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:21:14 -0400 (EDT), dinkmeister wrote:
> :> :>
> :> :> :my cat loves to torture goldfish before eating them, I think its
> :pretty
> :> :> :damn cool.
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> :> :> :On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:34 GMT, Jean H wrote:
> :> :> :
> :> :> ::Im sorry,but I coudn't come at having a pet that has to be fed
live
> :food
> :> :it
> :> :> ::would starve first and I certainly couldn't let the cat play with
it
> :> :first
> :> :> ::that would be double the torture for me and the food. I remember
when
> :I
> :> :was
> :> :> ::about eight I took a wild mouse out of a cats mouth [ after a bit
of
> :a
> :> :> ::struggle] when I told my dad he went mad on me said the cat could
> :have
> :> :> ::sratched or bitten me or the mouse could have bitten me and
probably
> :had
> :> :> ::gangrene on its teeth and could have made me very sick, but I
can't
> :> :bear to
> :> :> ::see animals kill each other on these wildlife programmes even
though
> :I
> :> :know
> :> :> ::it happens indeed has to happen for animal life to survive I just
> :dont
> :> :want
> :> :> ::to watch it Jean P
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"dinkmeister" wrote in message

> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:22:51 GMT, Jean H wrote:
>
> :just keep away from the zoo
>
> thats ok, I don't plan on visiting you anytime soon.
>
> good !!! you've made my day
>
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"Ivor Jones" wrote in message

>
> Cats are obligate carnivores, they cannot survive on a vegetarian diet,
> they need animal proteins.

I've heard of some people trying to feed their cats a vegetarian diet.

M
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"Shazza" wrote in message

> Point well taken and you are right, but at least you're not feeding cats
> live bait. The food has already been processed.

Yeah, I'm not sure I could have a pet that I had to feed live food to. We
who are squeamish just remove ourselves from the 'messy' end of the process
by getting our pet's food from the store, in a bag or can.

Now that I think of it though, we used to have fish that we fed live bait to
(smaller fish and shrimp), and turtles that we gave bugs to sometimes.
Hmmmm.....It really boils down to what you get used to thinking of as 'ok',
or what you are 'conditioned' to think is ok.

M
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Jean, He just thinks he has a live one . Some people think its funny to
gross out another human being .
Ivy
"Jean H" wrote in message

> who said I thought you were 'people?
> "dinkmeister" wrote in message
>
> > turtles don't eat people, they eat fish (and other small animals/bugs)
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:05:37 GMT, Jean H wrote:
> >
> > :maybe one day we'll get lucky and the turtle will leave your head
> floating
> > :on the water
> > :"dinkmeister" wrote in message
> > :
> > :> on the other hand, my turtle is even more interesting when it comes
to
> > :> eating live goldfish, it bites into the fishes tail and uses its
front
> > :claws
> > :> to life up under the fishes gills and rip its head clean off, then
eats
> > :> the body/tail part. the head usually sits there bobbing on the top
of
> the
> > :> water still breathing for 20 minutes up to an hour.
> > :>
> > :> nature rules!
> > :>
> > :>
> > :> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:21:14 -0400 (EDT), dinkmeister wrote:
> > :>
> > :> :my cat loves to torture goldfish before eating them, I think its
> pretty
> > :> :damn cool.
> > :> :
> > :> :
> > :> :On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:34 GMT, Jean H wrote:
> > :> :
> > :> ::Im sorry,but I coudn't come at having a pet that has to be fed live
> food
> > :it
> > :> ::would starve first and I certainly couldn't let the cat play with
it
> > :first
> > :> ::that would be double the torture for me and the food. I remember
when
> I
> > :was
> > :> ::about eight I took a wild mouse out of a cats mouth [ after a bit
of
> a
> > :> ::struggle] when I told my dad he went mad on me said the cat could
> have
> > :> ::sratched or bitten me or the mouse could have bitten me and
probably
> had
> > :> ::gangrene on its teeth and could have made me very sick, but I
can't
> > :bear to
> > :> ::see animals kill each other on these wildlife programmes even
though
> I
> > :know
> > :> ::it happens indeed has to happen for animal life to survive I just
> dont
> > :want
> > :> ::to watch it Jean P
> > :> ::
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> > :> :
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guess I'll have to post some pictures here next time I feed him..


On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:00:33 GMT, cassidy8935 wrote:

: Jean, He just thinks he has a live one . Some people think its funny to
:gross out another human being .
: Ivy
: "Jean H" wrote in message
:
:> who said I thought you were 'people?
:> "dinkmeister" wrote in message
:>
:> > turtles don't eat people, they eat fish (and other small animals/bugs)
:> >
:> > On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:05:37 GMT, Jean H wrote:
:> >
:> > :maybe one day we'll get lucky and the turtle will leave your head
:> floating
:> > :on the water
:> > :"dinkmeister" wrote in message
:> > :
:> > :> on the other hand, my turtle is even more interesting when it comes
:to
:> > :> eating live goldfish, it bites into the fishes tail and uses its
:front
:> > :claws
:> > :> to life up under the fishes gills and rip its head clean off, then
:eats
:> > :> the body/tail part. the head usually sits there bobbing on the top
:of
:> the
:> > :> water still breathing for 20 minutes up to an hour.
:> > :>
:> > :> nature rules!
:> > :>
:> > :>
:> > :> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:21:14 -0400 (EDT), dinkmeister wrote:
:> > :>
:> > :> :my cat loves to torture goldfish before eating them, I think its
:> pretty
:> > :> :damn cool.
:> > :> :
:> > :> :
:> > :> :On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:34 GMT, Jean H wrote:
:> > :> :
:> > :> ::Im sorry,but I coudn't come at having a pet that has to be fed live
:> food
:> > :it
:> > :> ::would starve first and I certainly couldn't let the cat play with
:it
:> > :first
:> > :> ::that would be double the torture for me and the food. I remember
:when
:> I
:> > :was
:> > :> ::about eight I took a wild mouse out of a cats mouth [ after a bit
:of
:> a
:> > :> ::struggle] when I told my dad he went mad on me said the cat could
:> have
:> > :> ::sratched or bitten me or the mouse could have bitten me and
:probably
:> had
:> > :> ::gangrene on its teeth and could have made me very sick, but I
:can't
:> > :bear to
:> > :> ::see animals kill each other on these wildlife programmes even
:though
:> I
:> > :know
:> > :> ::it happens indeed has to happen for animal life to survive I just
:> dont
:> > :want
:> > :> ::to watch it Jean P
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"Jean H" wrote in message

: my cat also an indoor cat his presents to me are leaves and storks off my
: plants dead ones that is, and 'just for the record I saw open heart
surgery
: my husband fainted I didn't I also saw lots of blood and guts when I was
a
: nurse that doesn't make me want to watch animals killing each other the
: operations in a hospital are for giving life not taking it.jp
:
I would say that animals eating animals is about life givving too. of
course, that does not mean I can watch it. <grin> I especially cannot watch
when they show the animals hunting baby animals. I love to watch nature
shows, just close my eyes for the killings. I can watch them eating, just
not killing.
and I used to have a snake, and it did not bother me to feed him mice. I
never really watched. just put mouse in the his cage, and left him to eat in
peace. I also had a hdge hog, we would feed him life meal worms. They are
gross looking to me. I could not watch him eating them only cuz they are
icky.
Paula
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:
: I've heard of some people trying to feed their cats a vegetarian diet.
:
: M
:
I've heard of that too. and the cats usually end up malnourished from what i
understand. It is possible, just not recommended, and if you insist on
changing the cat's diet to suit your morality, do it only with a vet's
supervision. I'm not coming down on vegetarians, just on those that insist
the whole world, including animals, follow it. I'm more the kind of to each
his own.
Paula
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Who started this ridiculous discussion?
"Jean H" wrote in message

> maybe one day we'll get lucky and the turtle will leave your head floating
> on the water
> "dinkmeister" wrote in message
>
> > on the other hand, my turtle is even more interesting when it comes to
> > eating live goldfish, it bites into the fishes tail and uses its front
> claws
> > to life up under the fishes gills and rip its head clean off, then eats
> > the body/tail part. the head usually sits there bobbing on the top of
the
> > water still breathing for 20 minutes up to an hour.
> >
> > nature rules!
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:21:14 -0400 (EDT), dinkmeister wrote:
> >
> > :my cat loves to torture goldfish before eating them, I think its pretty
> > :damn cool.
> > :
> > :
> > :On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:34 GMT, Jean H wrote:
> > :
> > ::Im sorry,but I coudn't come at having a pet that has to be fed live
food
> it
> > ::would starve first and I certainly couldn't let the cat play with it
> first
> > ::that would be double the torture for me and the food. I remember when
I
> was
> > ::about eight I took a wild mouse out of a cats mouth [ after a bit of a
> > ::struggle] when I told my dad he went mad on me said the cat could
have
> > ::sratched or bitten me or the mouse could have bitten me and probably
had
> > ::gangrene on its teeth and could have made me very sick, but I can't
> bear to
> > ::see animals kill each other on these wildlife programmes even though I
> know
> > ::it happens indeed has to happen for animal life to survive I just dont
> want
> > ::to watch it Jean P
> > ::
> > ::
> > :
> > :
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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"Shazza" wrote in message

: I've seen vegetarians who revel in the entertainment of feeding a mouse to
a
: snake. Go figure... I would never attempt to create a vegetarian cat or
: feed him a meatless diet. You could feed the cat bits of cheese as
treats.
: Is fish considered a meat item?
:
:
I would say it is. considering it once had a heart beat. But if I remember
kosher law right, fish is considered a neutral food, it can be eaten with
both meat and dairy with no problems. But I could be wrong, it's been a
while since i've looked into it.
Paula
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:45:27 -0600, m l briggs
wrote:

>I'm with you Jean. I can't watch "nature" programs either. When I was a little kid, I saw a dog
>kill a kitten and I saw some other horrible things that have stayed with me ever since. MLB
>
>Jean H wrote:
>> Im sorry,but I coudn't come at having a pet that has to be fed live food it
>> would starve first and I certainly couldn't let the cat play with it first
>> that would be double the torture for me and the food. I remember when I was
>> about eight I took a wild mouse out of a cats mouth [ after a bit of a
>> struggle] when I told my dad he went mad on me said the cat could have
>> sratched or bitten me or the mouse could have bitten me and probably had
>> gangrene on its teeth and could have made me very sick, but I can't bear to
>> see animals kill each other on these wildlife programmes even though I know
>> it happens indeed has to happen for animal life to survive I just dont want
>> to watch it Jean P

You don't like watching Animal Snuff? The Kennedy Space Center racoon
that made it halfway across a canal before it got gatored. Six crocs
all trying to pull down the same zebra. A pod of orcas killing a blue
whale. A starving male polar bear killing and eating a cub. THen there
is the live entertainment. Cat killing rabbits. Car killing deer.
stuff like that. I used to hunt rabbits with my cat. I would hide
under a bush and the cat would herd one my way. I would slap it in the
direction of the cat and she would grab it. I would cook it up and we
would share it.

Casady
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