Cat not drinking water

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> On Apr 15, 5:28 am, "Ivor Jones" wrote:
>> Innews:u1XMj.13829$DD2.7625@trndny04,
>> Professor typed, for some strange, unexplained
>> reason:: "cybercat" wrote in message
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>> :
>> : >
>> : > "William Graham" wrote:
>> : >>>
>> : >> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to
>> : >> cater to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
>> : >
>> : > Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they
>> : > might find a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of
>> : > them.
>> : >
>> : William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
>> : Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.
>>
>> That just goes to show that you really don't know me, the area I live in,
>> or any of the inside/outside cats I've had for the last 30 years.
>>
>> Ivor
>
> Look at Professor's history of posting....he's usually looking to
> antagonize someone.......just my opinion though...but now he'll be mad
> at me for telling it like it is...he'll follow me around again begging
> me to stop STALKING him.....Let your cats out, I always have and they
> are happy and have lived for many years....my wife's best friend is a
> vet and all her cats go outside.......if I were Professor's cats I'd
> probably rip his eyes out while he's sleeping... Peace Ivor

The difference between professor and myself is obvious.....I don't presume
to tell him how to take care of his cats, because I don't know his
circumstances, but he is quite willing to tell me how to take care of mine,
even though he doesn't know beans about me or any of my cats. - He is a
typical liberal. - I have been fighting with them all of my life. They are
obnoxious people who think they know everything and are quite willing to
make laws that force everyone else to live the way they think they should
live. They have no imagination at all, and will be very surprised one day
when they are ushered into their padded cells right along with the rest of
us, because what goes around, comes around. It's easy for them, (for
example) to make laws that force me to wear what they think I should wear
while I ride my motorcycle, but when laws are made that force them to wear
what society thinks they should wear when pursuing their favorite hobby,
they will be very incensed. - But it will be far too late by then, and they
will have to enter their padded cell right along with the rest of us. I just
wish I could be there to usher them in.........
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On Apr 15, 5:11 pm, "William Graham" wrote:
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> >>>> "William Graham" wrote:
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> >>>>> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater
> >>>>> to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
>
> >>>> Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
> >>>> find
> >>>> a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.
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> >> More likely, they would be put to sleep.....There are far too many cats
> >> to expect them to find a good home when taken to a "shelter". My cats are
> >> very happy, in spite of people like, "professor" who presume to know
> >> enough to tell other people how to live.....God save us from the
> >> liberals.....
>
> > William Graham addresses the post to me yet none of the text was mine.
> > He demonstrates that with advanced age, wisdom does not always follow.
>
> My post is addressed, (obviously) to whomever wants me to take my cats to a
> shelter where they will, "find a good home". I could care less exactly who
> that is, or who is at the header of the post.......I know you well
> professor, and I know the way your think. I have been arguing with those of
> your ilk for my entire life.

Careful, if you argue with him he will post your phone number after
some nifty cyber sleuthing.......he's a nutjob.
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> On Apr 15, 5:11 pm, "William Graham" wrote:
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>> >>> "cybercat" wrote in message
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>> >>>> "William Graham" wrote:
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>> >>>>> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to
>> >>>>> cater
>> >>>>> to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
>>
>> >>>> Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
>> >>>> find
>> >>>> a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.
>>
>> >> More likely, they would be put to sleep.....There are far too many
>> >> cats
>> >> to expect them to find a good home when taken to a "shelter". My cats
>> >> are
>> >> very happy, in spite of people like, "professor" who presume to know
>> >> enough to tell other people how to live.....God save us from the
>> >> liberals.....
>>
>> > William Graham addresses the post to me yet none of the text was mine.
>> > He demonstrates that with advanced age, wisdom does not always follow.
>>
>> My post is addressed, (obviously) to whomever wants me to take my cats to
>> a
>> shelter where they will, "find a good home". I could care less exactly
>> who
>> that is, or who is at the header of the post.......I know you well
>> professor, and I know the way your think. I have been arguing with those
>> of
>> your ilk for my entire life.
>
> Careful, if you argue with him he will post your phone number after
> some nifty cyber sleuthing.......he's a nutjob.

I have posted my own phone number on the web many times.....Today, it
doesn't matter. We have caller ID, and for a good reason. We don't pick up
on about 80% of the calls we get. I am finding that many of the cell phone
calls I get are also spam calls, too. It won't be long before this device
becomes as useless as the regular, "wired" telephone.....Already I am
keeping it on silent, or, "vibrate" mode most of the time.

I am: William E. Graham, 237 Turnage Street, NW, Salem, Oregon, 97304. And
My telephone number is 503-589-4347. We turn it off at night, and only
answer calls from those we know.
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> "Professor" wrote in message
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>> "cybercat" wrote in message
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>>> "William Graham" wrote:
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>>>> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater
>>>> to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
>>>
>>> Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
>>> find
>>> a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.
>
> More likely, they would be put to sleep.....There are far too many cats to
> expect them to find a good home when taken to a "shelter". My cats are
> very happy, in spite of people like, "professor" who presume to know
> enough to tell other people how to live.....God save us from the
> liberals.....
>
William Graham addresses the post to me yet none of the text was mine.
He demonstrates that with advanced age, wisdom does not always follow.
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>>>> "William Graham" wrote:
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>>>>> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater
>>>>> to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
>>>>
>>>> Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
>>>> find
>>>> a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.
>>
>> More likely, they would be put to sleep.....There are far too many cats
>> to expect them to find a good home when taken to a "shelter". My cats are
>> very happy, in spite of people like, "professor" who presume to know
>> enough to tell other people how to live.....God save us from the
>> liberals.....
>>
> William Graham addresses the post to me yet none of the text was mine.
> He demonstrates that with advanced age, wisdom does not always follow.
>
My post is addressed, (obviously) to whomever wants me to take my cats to a
shelter where they will, "find a good home". I could care less exactly who
that is, or who is at the header of the post.......I know you well
professor, and I know the way your think. I have been arguing with those of
your ilk for my entire life.
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>> "William Graham" wrote in message
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>>>> "cybercat" wrote in message
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>>>>> "William Graham" wrote:
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>>>>>> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to
>>>>>> cater to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
>>>>> find
>>>>> a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.
>>>
>>> More likely, they would be put to sleep.....There are far too many cats
>>> to expect them to find a good home when taken to a "shelter". My cats
>>> are very happy, in spite of people like, "professor" who presume to know
>>> enough to tell other people how to live.....God save us from the
>>> liberals.....
>>>
>> William Graham addresses the post to me yet none of the text was mine.
>> He demonstrates that with advanced age, wisdom does not always follow.
>>
> My post is addressed, (obviously) to whomever wants me to take my cats to
> a shelter where they will, "find a good home". I could care less exactly
> who that is, or who is at the header of the post.......I know you well
> professor, and I know the way your think. I have been arguing with those
> of your ilk for my entire life.
>
Framing of the issue as a liberal versus conservative issue is inaccurate.
You prefer your cats outside because you don't care for them enough
to want to change their litter box. Matthew is just as opposed to your
don't-give-a-damn attitude yet I don't see you calling him a liberal.
If your cats were children and it was a custody battle you'd lose.
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William Graham typed, for some strange, unexplained
reason:
: "Professor" wrote in message
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: > "cybercat" wrote in message
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: >>
: >> "William Graham" wrote:
: >>>>
: >>> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to
: >>> cater to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
: >>
: >> Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they
: >> might find a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of
: >> them.
:
: More likely, they would be put to sleep.....There are far too many
: cats to expect them to find a good home when taken to a "shelter". My
: cats are very happy, in spite of people like, "professor" who presume
: to know enough to tell other people how to live.....God save us from
: the liberals.....

Depends on the shelter. I volunteer for Cats Protection, who operate a
strict no-kill policy, a healthy cat is never put to sleep. Some of our
long term residents have been with us for years, notably Polly, who's been
with us over 10 years and lives on top of the tumble dryer in the washroom
:-)


Ivor
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"Ivor Jones" wrote in message

> In news:irednV7874KSiJjVnZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@comcast.com,
> William Graham typed, for some strange, unexplained
> reason:
> : "Professor" wrote in message
> :
> : > "cybercat" wrote in message
> : >
> : >>
> : >> "William Graham" wrote:
> : >>>>
> : >>> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to
> : >>> cater to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
> : >>
> : >> Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they
> : >> might find a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of
> : >> them.
> :
> : More likely, they would be put to sleep.....There are far too many
> : cats to expect them to find a good home when taken to a "shelter". My
> : cats are very happy, in spite of people like, "professor" who presume
> : to know enough to tell other people how to live.....God save us from
> : the liberals.....
>
> Depends on the shelter. I volunteer for Cats Protection, who operate a
> strict no-kill policy, a healthy cat is never put to sleep. Some of our
> long term residents have been with us for years, notably Polly, who's been
> with us over 10 years and lives on top of the tumble dryer in the washroom
> :-)
>
>
> Ivor
>
This is commendable.....I only wish I was wealthy enough to have purchased a
farm when I retired some 12 years ago. I would have many more cats than I
have now. Perhaps I would be able to hire people to help me take care of
them.......Cats require companionship as well as food and water, however,
and I have other hobbies that require my time.....I play the trumpet in
several of the local bands. Cats are also territorial, and I already have
some problems with the 5 cats that I have now......Although my property is
large enough for them, I don't think I could get any more cats and still be
able to keep the peace. We have three females and two males, and even though
they are all neutered, they sometimes fight with one another over territory
and my wife's attention.
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> "cybercat" wrote in message
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>> "William Graham" wrote:
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>>> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater
>>> to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
>>
>> Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might find
>> a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.
>>
> William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
> Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.


Funny thread.

I know several people who "indoor" their cats, and at least one let theirs
out accidentally, and never saw it again.
They swore that same arguments I see here about letting it out once and it
dies.

When the truth probably was that once the cat finally got a chance to get
away, it probably still hasn't stopped running, is now happy, has a family,
and a good job.

Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.

Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.
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> Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.
> Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.

You're a flaming idiot. Saying that they run is giving them human
attributes. Cats are curious creatures and want to get outside just because
it's some place they've never been and so they go looking around. It's like
any five year old child who chases a butterfly, becomes lost and can't find
its way back. Only difference is that a cat usually has enough natural
instincts to survive away from home. A cat new to the outside can easily got
lost and not be able to find it's way back home. That's not running. It's
called being in a completely unfamiliar environment without any reference
point to get home.
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> "Professor" wrote in message
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>> "cybercat" wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "William Graham" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater
>>>> to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
>>>
>>> Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
>>> find
>>> a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.
>>>
>> William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
>> Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.
>
>
> Funny thread.
>
> I know several people who "indoor" their cats, and at least one let theirs
> out accidentally, and never saw it again.
> They swore that same arguments I see here about letting it out once and it
> dies.
>
> When the truth probably was that once the cat finally got a chance to get
> away, it probably still hasn't stopped running, is now happy, has a
> family, and a good job.
>
> Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.
>
> Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.
>
I think that if you get a cat from kittenhood, and keep it well indoors, it
can lead a very happy life. but if you get cats the way I do, ones that just
wandered in that someone else abandoned, who have been living outdoors most
of their lives, then it is very hard to keep them as indoor cats. What's
strange about, "professor" is that he presumes to know all about other
people whom he has never met, and thinks the whole world lives the way he
does, or at least ought to live the way he does. He doesn't have the
imagination to be able to put himself in someone else's shoes or believe
that it might be possible for others (and/or their cats) to keep a different
life style than he does.
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Upscale wrote:
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>"AMUN" wrote in message
>> Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.
>> Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.
>
>You're a flaming idiot. Saying that they run is giving them human
>attributes. Cats are curious creatures and want to get outside just because
>it's some place they've never been and so they go looking around. It's like
>any five year old child who chases a butterfly, becomes lost and can't find
>its way back. Only difference is that a cat usually has enough natural
>instincts to survive away from home. A cat new to the outside can easily got
>lost and not be able to find it's way back home. That's not running. It's
>called being in a completely unfamiliar environment without any reference
>point to get home.
>
>


And for a different point of view, Bubba the Maine Coon absolutely
refuses to go outside. I leave the door open, weather permitting,
and he'll occasionally look out for a moment, then turn around and
do something else. On the occasions when I pick him up and carry him
outside he immediately goes into full drama queen mode and acts as
if I'm sticking pins in him or something. He has a special "outdoor"
howl that he uses for these occasions. If I set him down, he sets a
land speed record getting back inside. If the door is closed he sits
and howls at the door until someone opens it and lets him in.
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"Claude V. Lucas" wrote in message
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> do something else. On the occasions when I pick him up and carry him
> outside he immediately goes into full drama queen mode and acts as
> if I'm sticking pins in him or something. He has a special "outdoor"
> howl that he uses for these occasions.

Har, that's funny. In a reverse role, I'm planning on taking my three year
old Deetoo out for recreation trips this coming summer. Only other times
she's been out is when she's been in her cat carry bag while I roll down the
street to her annual vet examination.

Currently, I've been putting a halter on Deetoo and she wears it around the
apartment for several hours without complaint. Next I'll attach a leash to
the halter and walk her a little bit in the apartment hallways. The final
part will be when I take her over to a friend's house and tie the leash to a
stake in the ground and see how she likes the green grass. If she weathers
that experience without too much complaint, I'll see about expanding outings
for her in the future.

And to the comment a previous poster made, most cat inside/outside comments
are talking in absolutes. I agree with that assessment. If I lived in a
house in some rural area or perhaps a farm, I'd let my cat out. But, not
when I'm living in the middle of a city with 3 zillion cars zipping by and
minimal trees and grass to be found.
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