Cat not drinking water

"Ivor Jones" spoke.....

And you still don't know me or any of my cats.
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>
> Ivor
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Exactly........It is the unmistakable mark of the liberal to presume he/she
knows what is best for the rest of us, and is quite willing to make a law
that forces his decision on the rest of society, to boot.....We are today
looking at what is probably going to be the most important election of my 72
year lifetime. We are essentially going to choose between socialism and
democracy. I hope we make the right choice.......
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"Ivor Jones" wrote in message

> Upscale wrote:
>> "Ivor Jones" wrote in message
>>> You don't know me, the area where I live, or the cats I have had
>>> over the last 30 years, all of whom have been allowed out and all of
>>> whom have lived for 16+ years. Please don't make assumptions.
>>
>> Actually, you're the one making assumptions by thinking that indoor
>> only cats are miserable or even remotely unhappy. By your statement
>> "Personally I'd rather a short and happy life than a long and
>> miserable one" can we believe that you'd be perfectly happy to spend
>> all your time eating, drinking and screwing around and then dying by
>> the age of thirty from a combination of AIDS, diabetes and cirrhosis
>> of the liver?
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> You can believe whatever you like.
>
> FWIW I never once said indoor only cats are miserable. I merely said I
> believe they would be *happier* if allowed out.
>
> And you still don't know me or any of my cats.
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>
I know that you are willing to endanger the animals who trust you to protect
them because you're too lazy to clean a litter box. Couch it in all the
noble "be fwee wild thing" philosophy you want, and there it still is.
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"William Graham" wrote >>
> Me too, and I wouldn't impose anything else on my cats, either. When you
> compare a hundred year lifespan to the infinity of time that is implied in
> the universe, it just doesn't make sense to compromise on your enjoyment
> in the interest of saving a few years, and anyone who really understands
> cats would know that they think the same way, or, at least, would think
> that way were they philosophers......:^)

Nonsense. Anyone willing to expose domesticated animals to anything outside
that happens by is an irresponsible person. Period. As for what cats "would
think"
if they were philosophers, we're the ones with the overdeveloped forebrains
and thumbs. Decent pet owners take care of their animals and protect them
from things they have no way of understanding. Like dogs, disease, cars, and
my
personal favorite, humans who love to torture animals.

It's honest of you to admit that you are willing to endanger your cats in
the name
of this asinine 19th-century "be fwee" "philosophy," but the fact that you
actually
congratulate yourself for it is nauseating.
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"William Graham" wrote:
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> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater to
> them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....

Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might find
a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.
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"William Graham" wrote in message
> When they usher you into your own private padded cell, designed so you
can't
> hurt yourself by making any stupid decisions, then we will see whether or
> not you can recognize the value of the thing called, "freedom", for either
> cats or human beings.......

That philosophy is perfectly fine when your decisions affect you only, but
the fact is that almost always, whatever you do has ramifications on other
people or on society. You might rail against some law like having to use a
seatbelt when you're driving, but when you get into an accident and suffer a
serious brain injury, the money and effort put in by other people has to
take care of you for the rest of your life. As always Graham, what you view
as "freedom" by many standards is essentially selfishness.
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"William Graham" wrote in message

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> "Matthew" wrote in message
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>> "Ivor Jones" wrote in message
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>>> Upscale wrote:
>>>> "William Graham" wrote in message
>>>>> Yeah......Makes you wonder how they could have survived for millions
>>>>> of years by drinking the foulest water they could find......:^)
>>>>
>>>> Which should make one realize why indoor only cats usually live
>>>> longer than outdoor cats. Just because a cat may be happier with the
>>>> unlimited wide open spaces available to it doesn't mean it can't be
>>>> happy living an indoor only life as well as a longer life.
>>>
>>> Personally I'd rather a short and happy life than a long and miserable
>>> one.
>>>
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>> That is about the most ignorant thing I have ever heard.
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>>
>>
>> But I am not going to get in this stupid debate again that a few of you
>> can resist to keep going
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> It may be stupid to you, but to me it is a lot deeper than most people
> really understand. - It has philosophical implications that are
> tremendous, and not just for the cats. The whole world today is divided
> between giving up their freedoms to the government and letting society
> make their decisions for them, and standing on their own feet and going
> with their own decisions for better or worse. Please choose wisely.......

No not the principal of the inside out side debate

it is stupid because all of you keep doing it with each other knowing that
none of you agree with one another and argue it knowing that you all
disagree and have made your points to each other multiple times.

I have chosen my furballs are safe I know it no one can tell me other wise
only I can make that decision
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"Matthew" wrote in message
> it is stupid because all of you keep doing it with each other knowing
that
> none of you agree with one another and argue it knowing that you all
> disagree and have made your points to each other multiple times.

We argue because none of us have a life and I'd prefer to waste my life on
my computer than go play with my meowing cat who wants some attention right
now.


:)
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"Upscale" wrote in message

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> "Matthew" wrote in message
>> it is stupid because all of you keep doing it with each other knowing
> that
>> none of you agree with one another and argue it knowing that you all
>> disagree and have made your points to each other multiple times.
>
> We argue because none of us have a life and I'd prefer to waste my life on
> my computer than go play with my meowing cat who wants some attention
> right
> now.
>
>
> :)
>

I can't wait to met you on the cruise I am going to throw you over the side
;-) I might have to join you overboard after all of this bring on the half
naked native woman
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"Upscale" wrote in message

>
> "Matthew" wrote in message
>> it is stupid because all of you keep doing it with each other knowing
> that
>> none of you agree with one another and argue it knowing that you all
>> disagree and have made your points to each other multiple times.
>
> We argue because none of us have a life and I'd prefer to waste my life on
> my computer than go play with my meowing cat who wants some attention
> right
> now.
>
>
> :)
>
Sorry Upscale confused you with Outsider another person from another cat
group that I am friends with

But still bring on the half naked native woman it has to better than this
;-)
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In news:4803e994$0$2847$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com,
cybercat typed, for some strange, unexplained
reason:
: "Ivor Jones" wrote in message
:

[snip]

: > FWIW I never once said indoor only cats are miserable. I merely
: > said I believe they would be *happier* if allowed out.
: >
: > And you still don't know me or any of my cats.
: >
: >
: I know that you are willing to endanger the animals who trust you to
: protect them because you're too lazy to clean a litter box. Couch it
: in all the noble "be fwee wild thing" philosophy you want, and there
: it still is.

Eh..? Where did I mention litter boxes..?

FWIW I spend most weekends at a rescue shelter doing exactly that.

Now come up with a rational explanation as to why I should keep cats that
you know nothing about inside when I live in an environment that you know
equally nothing about.


Ivor
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"cybercat" wrote in message

>
> "William Graham" wrote:
>>>
>> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater to
>> them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
>
> Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might find
> a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.
>
William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.
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In news:u1XMj.13829$DD2.7625@trndny04,
Professor typed, for some strange, unexplained
reason:
: "cybercat" wrote in message
:
: >
: > "William Graham" wrote:
: >>>
: >> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to
: >> cater to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
: >
: > Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they
: > might find a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of
: > them.
: >
: William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
: Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.

That just goes to show that you really don't know me, the area I live in,
or any of the inside/outside cats I've had for the last 30 years.

Ivor
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On Apr 15, 5:28 am, "Ivor Jones" wrote:
> Innews:u1XMj.13829$DD2.7625@trndny04,
> Professor typed, for some strange, unexplained
> reason:: "cybercat" wrote in message
>
> :
> : >
> : > "William Graham" wrote:
> : >>>
> : >> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to
> : >> cater to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
> : >
> : > Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they
> : > might find a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of
> : > them.
> : >
> : William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
> : Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.
>
> That just goes to show that you really don't know me, the area I live in,
> or any of the inside/outside cats I've had for the last 30 years.
>
> Ivor

Look at Professor's history of posting....he's usually looking to
antagonize someone.......just my opinion though...but now he'll be mad
at me for telling it like it is...he'll follow me around again begging
me to stop STALKING him.....Let your cats out, I always have and they
are happy and have lived for many years....my wife's best friend is a
vet and all her cats go outside.......if I were Professor's cats I'd
probably rip his eyes out while he's sleeping... Peace Ivor
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