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Brenda Johnson

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Since: Oct 17, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:35 pm
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Anyone here involved in pet adoptions have thoughts on the Ellen
Degenneres dog adoption battle?

The woman from the dog adoption agency is now receiving alot
of death threate.

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MaryL

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:02 am
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"Brenda Johnson" <Send to usenet only> wrote in message

> Anyone here involved in pet adoptions have thoughts on the Ellen
> Degenneres dog adoption battle?
>
> The woman from the dog adoption agency is now receiving alot
> of death threate.


I did not see the program and only know what I read from a short article.
From what I read, I think Ellen D. is completely wrong -- she signed an
agreement (which is standard) to return the dog if she couldn't keep it.
There are good reasons why the original agency should make the adoption
decisions. Then she went on television, and apparently exposed these people
by name and with enough personal information that they have been subjected
to threats.

MaryL

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Susan Lewis

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:33 pm
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:35:09 -0400, Brenda Johnson <Send to usenet
only> wrote:

>Anyone here involved in pet adoptions have thoughts on the Ellen
>Degenneres dog adoption battle?
>
>The woman from the dog adoption agency is now receiving alot
>of death threate.
It seems the adoption agency broke some laws in this process.
One they ripped the dog out of the hands of a child. Rule #1
is you can't touch a child. Touching the child is enough to
get you arrested.

Also it seems the adoption agency is guilty of fraud. Apparently
the adoption agency charged for having the dog fixed, a procedure
that was never done.
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MaryL

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:33 pm
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"Susan Lewis" <Send to group> wrote in message

> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:35:09 -0400, Brenda Johnson <Send to usenet
> only> wrote:
>
>>Anyone here involved in pet adoptions have thoughts on the Ellen
>>Degenneres dog adoption battle?
>>
>>The woman from the dog adoption agency is now receiving alot
>>of death threate.
> It seems the adoption agency broke some laws in this process.
> One they ripped the dog out of the hands of a child. Rule #1
> is you can't touch a child. Touching the child is enough to
> get you arrested.
>
> Also it seems the adoption agency is guilty of fraud. Apparently
> the adoption agency charged for having the dog fixed, a procedure
> that was never done.
>

I have not seen any references to the adoption agency touching the child.
If that is correct, then it could be seen as assault. However, charging a
fee for having the dog "fixed" would not be fraud. It is common practice
for adoption agencies to charge a fee, which is really a deposit. Once the
cat or dog is spayed/neutered, a receipt from a vet will serve to get a
refund from the adoption agencies. Unfortunately, many people paid the fee
but never did have the pet spayed or neutered. As a result, many adoption
agencies now arrange for the procedure themselves. But we can't really say
that it was fraud in this case unless the agency took the fee and claimed
that they were going to have the procedure done themselves. You may have
seen more detailed articles, but I haven't seen any that specifically
address either of the points you raised.

MaryL
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